CLASSIFICATION
Swallow ID:
1268
Partner Institution:
Concordia University
Source Collection Label:
SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds
Series:
The Poetry Series
Sub Series:
SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds
ITEM DESCRIPTION
Title:
Joe Rosenblatt and John Newlove at Sir George Williams University, The Poetry Series, 9 February 1968
Title Source:
Cataloguer
Title Note:
"JOE RESENBLATT I006/SR138" written on sticker on the spine of the tape's box. JOE RESENBLATT refers to Joe Rosenblatt. RESENBLATT is mispelled. "I006-11-138" written on sticker on the reel.
"JOHN NEWLOVE I006/S2143" written on sticker on the spine of the tape's box. I006-11-143 written on sticker on the reel.
Language:
English
Production Context:
Documentary recording
Genre:
Reading: Poetry
Identifiers:
[I006-11-138, I006-11-143]
Rights
CREATORS
Name:
Rosenblatt, Joseph
Dates:
1933-
Role:
"Author",
"Performer"
Notes:
Poet and artist Joe (Joseph) Rosenblatt was born in Toronto in 1933, where he attended Central Technical School, which he left in grade ten. After a decade of traveling across Canada, working labour jobs with the CPR, Rosenblatt published his first collection of poetry through a small press, called The voyage of the mood (Heinrich Heine Press, 1963). He received a Canada Council grant in 1963 to write and draw, and published The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966), which established Rosenblatt as a serious poet. Rosenblatt then began editing Jewish Dialog, a literary magazine, in 1969, which he continued until 1983. He then published The winter of the lunar moth (House of Anansi, 1968), a collection of drawings Greenbaum (Coach House Press, 1971), Bumblebee dithyramb (Press Porcepic, 1972), Dream craters (Press Porcepic, 1974), Virgins and vampires (McClelland and Stewart, 1975) and Top Soil (Press Porcepic, 1976) which won a Governor General’s Award. Rosenblatt continued to publish collections of drawings and poetry collections, including Doctor Anacoda’s solar fan club (Press Porcepic, 1978), Loosely tied hands: an experiment in punk (Black Moss Press, 1978), The sleeping lady (Exile Editions, 1979), Brides of the stream (Oolichan Books, 1983), a reconsidered history of Marxist government Beds and consenting dreamers (Oolichan Books, 1994) and The Joe Rosenblatt Reader (Exile Editions, 1995). Rosenblatt received the B.C. Book Prize in 1986 for Poetry Hotel (1986). Rosenblatt held several positions as writer in residence at the University of Western Ontario (1979-1980), as Visiting Lecturer at University of Victoria (1980-81), the Associate editor of the Malahat Review (1980-1982), the writer in residence at the Saskatoon Public Library (1985-86) and at the University of Rome and University of Bologna (1987). Rosenblatt also served as a literary consultant for Porcupine's Quill, Blackfish Press, McClelland and Stewart, the Canada Council and Oolichan Books. His collected works can be found in The voluptuous gardener: the collected art and writing of Joe Rosenblatt, 1973-1996 (Beach Holme Publishers, 1996). Rosenblatt lived in Qualicum Beach on Vancouver Island, and during that time, also published Parrot fever (Exile Editions, 2002), The lunatic muse (Exile, 2007) and Dog (Mansfield Press, 2008). Rosenblatt died in 2019 after finishing work on Bite Me! Musings on Monsters and Mayhem (The Porcupine's Quill, 2019).
Name:
Newlove, John
Dates:
1938-2003
Notes:
Canadian poet John Newlove was born on June 13, 1938 in Regina, and was raised in Kamsack, Saskatchewan. He graduated from Kamsack College in 1956, and completed one year at the University of Saskatoon before touring and working in many cities across Canada. Newlove has worked as a school teacher in Birtle, Manitoba, as a social worker in Yorkton, Saskatchewan, at a radio station in Weyburn and in Regina, and as a clerk at the University of British Columbia bookstore. His first book of poetry is titled Grave Sirs (Robert Reid & Takao Tanabe, Vancouver, 1962), and is followed by Elephants, Mothers and Others (Periwinkle, 1963), Moving in Alone (Contact Press, 1965), What They Say (Weed/Flower, 1967), Black Night Window (McClelland & Stewart, 1968), The Cave (McClelland & Stewart, 1970), and Lies (McClelland & Stewart, 1972), which won a Governor General’s Award for Poetry. Newlove also worked as a writer-in-residence at the Regina Public Library, the University of Toronto, at Montreal’s Loyola College, and as an editor with McClelland & Stewart Publishing in Toronto between 1970 and 1974. Newlove then edited the McClelland & Stewart anthology Canadian Poetry: the modern era (1977), and published his own poetry in The fat man: selected poems 1962-1972 (McClelland & Stewart, 1977), The green plain (Oolichan Books, 1981), The night the dog smiled (ECW Press, 1986) and Apology for absence: Selected poems 1962-1992 (Porcupine’s Quill, 1993). Newlove taught writing at the David Thompson University Centre in Nelson, B.C. and as an editor for the Federal Commission of Official Languages in Ottawa. Newlove won the Saskatchewan Writer’s Guild Founders Award in 1984 and the Literary Press Group Award in 1986. Known and celebrated for bringing the Canadian Prairie into Canadian Literature, John Newlove died suddenly at the age of 65 on December 23, 2003.
CONTRIBUTORS
Name:
Kiyooka, Roy
Dates:
1926-1994
Role:
"Series organizer",
"Presenter"
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Roy Kiyooka
00:00:00
Good evening. Hello, Mr. Bowering
. [Audience laughter]. Well, welcome to the sixth reading of our second series of evenings with Canadian and American poets. Tonight we have Joe Rosenblatt
, Toronto
, and John Newlove
, formerly of Vancouver
, now residing in Nova Scotia
. Joe Rosenblatt will begin the reading, there will be an intermission, and John Newlove will follow. I'm going to quote largely from the copy in Joe Rosenblatt's book, The LSD Leacock, for I hope servient biographical information. It goes like this, he was born in Toronto on December the 26th, nineteen hundred and thirty-three. He says that he has suffocated in Toronto ever since then. He attended the Central Technical School
and dropped out in Grade 10, he has worked as a grave-digger, plumber's helper, civil servant, railway express misanthrope. He has attended the Provincial Institute of Trades where he acquired a diploma as a welder fitter, his favourite writers are Ambrose Biers, William Blake
, Emily Dickinson
, and A.M. Klein
, and his favourite dream, is Cyclops turning up at a [nigh-bank (?)]. [Audience laughter]. His previous book of poems, which was probably printed in nineteen hundred and sixty-three, is called Voyage of the Mood. Joe Rosenblatt.
Audience
00:02:27
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:02:36
Wasn't that [unintelligible]. I'm just going to read, start off with a series of poems I had written about my uncle, who was a fishmonger. He had a habit of phyxiating and murdering fish, and slicing them, and slicing them, and...well, I'll start. This is called "Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:03:11
Reads "Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:06:10
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:06:16
"Ichthycide". Another poem about my uncle. It's funny, really. [Audience laughter].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:06:29
Reads "Ichthycide" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:08:05
Laughter and applause .
Joe Rosenblatt
00:08:13
This is called "A Shell Game". Has to do with my uncle. [Audience laughter]. It's about his funeral. Joke.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:08:27
Reads "A Shell Game [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:09:42
I wrote all kinds of poems. I was in Vancouver and I came across the god-awful logic of the zoo. It kinda scared the hell out of me. It was a bat. I've never seen a bat before. Met people who were bats. But this was the real McCoy, it was a fruit bat and it was hanging upside-down, you know, that's the way they live and they fornicate that way too, apparently, upside-down. So I wrote about bats. I have some more fish poems but I get tired of that after a while, you start hating it. And we'll begin with "Bats". While it's true the bat is a mammal, not a bird, there's all types of kinds of mythology based on prejudice about bats and which I've tried to embody in these poems.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:10:47
Reads "Bats" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:11:32
Outside of the bat poem there came a group of sound poetry. Because I tried to get the feeling of the bat in the air, you know the image of the bat and the way it, and the movements of the bat. And this is called "The Fruit Bat". First encounter with a bat.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:11:56
Reads "The Fruit Bat" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:13:16
This is better. This is “The Bat Cage”.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:13:19
Reads “The Bat Cage” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:14:39
Oh we're like bats to people. We used to have, I used to, when I was a kid I went to school and we had a music teacher who was a bit of a nut. She used to rap kids across the knuckles, you know, just to hear them singing. [Audience laughter]. I may have called her Mrs. Love, I can't recall, the trauma was too great.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:15:02
Reads “The Vampire” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:15:48
Laughter and applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:15:55
"The Zombie". Just whistle when you get tired of these bat poems. Do anything you wanna do. "The Zombie". By the way, bats are supposed to be unkosher according to Leviticus
. It says all fowl that creep going upon all fours shall be an abomination unto you. But in other countries they're great appetizers, the fruit bat especially, and I have an interesting poem, not right now though. "The Zombie".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:16:26
Reads "The Zombie" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:17:59
I'll read one more bat poem, it's the sound thing, an experimental thing which I later developed...too many of these bats here. I wrote a Christmas poem on bats, too. Maybe I should read it. Dedicated to somebody. I'll read the sound poem. It's more important. "The Butterfly Bat". There is a butterfly bat. Hm, found in the Orient, a very beautiful bat, orange apparently, very beautiful though.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:18:43
Reads "The Butterfly Bat" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:02
Reads "Orpheus in Stanley Park" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:50
"Sex and Death". This poem's for a friend of mine.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:54
Reads "Sex and Death" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:21:48
I should read the egg poems, because I don't think many of you have heard them, and I'll do that. You'd probably like them better than the bats. More meaningful. This is called "Egg Sonata".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:22:20
Reads "Egg Sonata" [from The LSD Leacock].
Audience
00:23:38
Laughter and applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:23:44
Reads ["Let the egg live" (?)].
Unknown
00:24:56
Silence [cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:24:59
Reads "It's in the egg, in the little round egg" [from The LSD Leacock].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:26:57
One more egg poem. [Audience laughter and applause]. This is a prose poem. It's called "The Easter I got for Passover". [Audience laughter]. It has to do with an argument, whether the body of Christ did not go to heaven, the moderator of the United Church of Canada
said yesterday, Right Reverend Ernest Marshall Howes told a press conference that he does not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus but does believe in a spiritual resurrection. That's from the Globe and Mail
, 23rd of April, '65.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:27:46
Reads "The Easter I got for Passover" [from The LSD Leacock].
Audience
00:30:02
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:30:10
Do you want to read, John? Where is he? [Audience laughter]. Do you want me to come here? Yeah, okay. I'm getting down to my dirty poems, what am I going to do? I wrote a whole bunch of pornographic poetry, right. I'll read that for the end when the time's up. I wrote a poem to Che Guevara
, if I can find the thing now, because I really muddled everything up here, oh here it is. It's called "The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:30:52
Reads "The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:31:42
A poem about a critic, “Fable”.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:31:47
Reads “Fable” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:32:37
I wrote another one about a critic, a friend of mine. It's called "The Crab Louse". I'll read it. [Audience laughter]. I think some of you may recognize him.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:32:47
Reads "The Crab Louse".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:33:25
Reads "The Fire Bug Poet".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:34:29
"How Mice Make Love," how'd this get in here? "How Mice Make Love".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:34:36
Reads "How Mice Make Love" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:35:29
"The Electric Rose".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:35:34
Reads "The Electric Rose" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:37:13
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:37:17
Should I read on? Well this is a poem called "Itch". It's about that cat who, you know, in the world of the dead. And as usual I mucked up all the mythology, but it was too late to change the poem. So I said, what the hell.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:37:44
Reads "Itch" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:41:51
There's a loathsome typographical error in here. That's what happens.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:41:56
Resumes reading "Itch" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:43:20
[Unintelligible] a more cheerful poem, if I can find one here. How about "Cricket Love"? I'll read one very early poem I wrote, "Better She Dressed in a Black Garment".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:43:39
Reads "Better She Dressed in a Black Garment" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:44:21
Thank you.
Audience
00:44:22
Applause.
Roy Kiyooka
00:44:35
There'll be a fifteen minute inter- [cut off abruptly].
END
00:44:37
Notes:
Joe Rosenblatt reads from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968)] and The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966) and a few poems from unknown sources.
00:00- Roy Kiyooka introduces Joe Rosenblatt. [INDEX: George Bowering, sixth reading, second series, Canadian and American poets, Toronto, John Newlove of Vancouver/Nova Scotia, Joe Rosenblatt as first reader, The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966), biographical information, born in Toronto Dec. 26, 1933, Central Technical School, dropped out in grade 10, grave-digger, plumber’s helper, civil servant, railway express misanthrope, Provincial Institute of Trades, diploma as a welder fitter, Ambrose Biers, William Blake, Emily Dickinson, A.M. Klein, dream of cyclops turned up at nigh-bank [?], previous book of poems Voyage of the Mood (Heinrich Heine Press, 1963).]
02:36- Joe Rosenblatt introduces “Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green” [INDEX series of poems about his uncle, fishmonger, fish, slicing fish; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
03:11- Reads “Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green”.
06:16- Introduces “Ichthycide”. [INDEX: poem about uncle, funny; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
06:29- Reads “Ichthycide”
08:13- Introduces “A Shell Game” [INDEX: uncle, funeral, joke; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
08:27- Reads “A Shell Game”.
09:42- Introduces “Bats”. [INDEX: all kinds of poems, Vancouver, zoo, scared, bat, fruit bat, fornicate, fish poems, mammal, bird, mythology, prejudice about bats; most likely from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
10:47- Reads “Bats”.
11:32- Introduces “The Fruit Bat”. [INDEX: bat poem, group of sound poetry, feeling of the bat, first encounter; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
11:56- Reads “The Fruit Bat”.
13:16- Introduces “The Bat Cage”. [INDEX: from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
13:19- Reads “The Bat Cage”.
14:39- Introduces “The Vampire”. [INDEX: bats, people, kid, school, music teacher, trauma; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
15:02- Reads “The Vampire”.
15:55- Introduces “The Zombie”. [INDEX: bat poem, unkosher, Levictis, fowl, appetizers; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
16:26- Reads “The Zombie”.
17:59- Introduces “The Butterfly Bat”. [INDEX: bat poem, experimental, Christmas poem, dedication, sound poem, Orient, orange bat; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
18:43- Reads “The Butterfly Bat”.
20:02- Reads “Orpheus in Stanley Park”. [INDEX: from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
20:50- Introduces “Sex and Death”. [INDEX: for a friend; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi, 1968).]
20:54- Reads “Sex and Death”.
21:48- Introduces “Egg Sonata”. [INDEX: egg poem, meaning; from The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966).]
22:20- Reads “Egg Sonata”.
23:44- Reads unknown poem, first line “Let the egg live...”. [INDEX: from unknown source]
24:59- Reads “It’s in the egg, the little round egg” [INDEX: from The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966).]
27:08- Introduces “The Easter I got for Passover”. [INDEX: prose poem, argument, the body of Christ, moderator of the United Church of Canada, Right Reverend Earnest Marshall Hows, press conference, disbelief in the physical resurrection of Jesus, spiritual resurrection, Globe and Mail, April 23, 1965; from The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966).]
27:46- Reads “The Easter I got for Passover”.
30:02- Introduces “The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara” [INDEX: John Newlove, dirty poems, pornographic poems, Che Guevara; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
30:52- Reads “The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara”.
31:42- Introduces “Fable” [INDEX: critic, fable; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
31:47- Reads “Fable”.
32:37- Introduces “The Crab Louse”. [INDEX: critic, friend; from unknown source]
32:47- Reads “The Crab Louse”.
33:25- Reads “The Fire Bug Poet”. [INDEX: from unknown source
34:29- Introduces “How Mice Make Love”. [INDEX: from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
34:36- Reads “How Mice Make Love”.
35:29- Reads “The Electric Rose” [INDEX: from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
37:17- Introduces “Itch”. [INDEX: Cat, world of the dead, mythology from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
37:44- Reads “Itch”. [INDEX: interrupts poem with admission of a typographical error]
43:20- Introduces “Better She Dressed in a Black Garment”. [INDEX: early poem, “Cricket Love”; from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968).]
43:39- Reads “Better She Dressed in a Black Garment”.
44:35- Introducer (Roy Kiyooka) introduces 15 minute intermission.
44:37.30- END OF RECORDING.
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Roy Kiyooka
00:00:00
Well, it gives me a very special kind of pleasure to introduce John Newlove. An old and dear friend. We met in the fall of '61 in Vancouver, and both of us had come from Saskatchewan
to Vancouver. I think that some of John's most memorable early poems have to do with the fact of Saskatchewan. It's perhaps not an exaggeration to say that the place does continue to haunt him, and hopefully that the exorcism is not complete and that we may get some more Saskatchewan poems. Subsequently, and this is still in Vancouver, we shared a studio, or rather, he shared my studio [audience laughter], for a period of little over a year. Now during this time, we played marathon games of chess, ate several hundred dozens of chocolate-coated Long Johns, scribbled poems, dribbled paint, drank cheap red wine...and read through at least a dozen five-foot shelves of great and lesser works of literature, not to mention the confusion of mice, drunken poets, women, painters, and assorted kooks who kept visiting us. Now, it was during this period that his first book, called Grave Sirs was printed, and I have in italics here "more or less." If you want to know the history of that book, you can ask John. I think there must be fifty odd copies that are still unbound someplace. This was printed by Robert Reed. It was followed by a second, called Elephants, Mothers, and Others, done by Tak Tanabe, again in Vancouver, and subsequent to that, it was rumored that Robert Columbo had discovered John Newlove for Canadian poetry [audience laughter], when he collected some of his works together in an anthology called Poetry '64. Now. Following this, of course, Contact Press bought out his book, Moving in Alone, which was perhaps the book that brought him his first large-scale critical attention. Meanwhile, of course, I'd come here, and some time afterwards I received a book, a wee book, called...let's see. [Audience laughter]. Can't read my own printing here. What They Say. Yes, What They Say is a wee book of poems, it's made up of the rejects from his manuscript that he submitted to McClelland and Stewart
. McClelland and Stewart is to bring out his next book of poems called Black Night Window, when they get around to doing it. The manuscript has been in their hands for over twenty-four months. There has been much other activity which include three, two years and a third one coming up as poet in residence at Deep Springs
in California
. I want to conclude this little preamble by saying that at the time that John moved out of our studio, I took over this room that he slept in and wrote poetry in. The mattress in this room was about sixteen inches from the floor, and on two sides, on the wall, there was copious scribbling. Most of it were quotations from Heraclitus
that he was reading at that time.
Audience
00:04:43
Applause.
John Newlove
00:04:51
They weren't quotations from whoever, whatever Greek name that was you just made up, [audience laughter], they were from Herodotus
. And, Roy
might have mentioned that, while I suppose technically you could say I was sharing the studio, I was paying half the rent. Almost half the rent. I was paying some rent. [Audience laughter]. And he never mentioned who won most of the chess games. I write a lot of...who's throwing things at me? You didn't win any chess games. [Audience laughter]. And you weren't paying any rent, either. I write a lot of poems about dreams, one night I woke up with a dream about an Australian chief and I managed to write down most of it. It's called "The Almost King".
John Newlove
00:05:42
Reads "The Almost King" [audience laughter throughout].
John Newlove
00:08:32
Well, when you have dreams like that, you don't really have much chance. I've a number of short poems, I'm told it's not good to give them at poetry readings because people don't listen fast enough or something. But. [Laughter]. This...Yes, that ashtray is stolen from the faculty club, George, and your wife stole it. [Audience laughter]. This one is called "The Candle".
John Newlove
00:09:07
Reads "The Candle".
John Newlove
00:09:19
Again a dream. This poem, misprinted in the Malahat Review
, is one that I most like. It's called "The Engine and the Sea".
John Newlove
00:09:32
Reads "The Engine and the Sea" [published later in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:11:26
Love poems about sleep. And about dreams. This one is called "Before Sleep". I used to have a great deal of trouble going to sleep because I was afraid I would have nightmares.
John Newlove
00:11:44
Reads "Before Sleep" [later published in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:12:53
And again another one about dreams, this one called "The Dream Man”. Dreamed I once wrote a dream about somebody else's dream, but that's not fair, dreams are copyright. This was my own. [Audience laughter].
John Newlove
00:13:09
Reads "The Dream Man".
John Newlove
00:14:35
According to the rules, you're supposed to say things in between poems, but I can't really ever think of anything appropriate to say in between them, so. I used to have some nice Ed Sullivan
routines, but I've forgotten them. This poem is called "Burn".
John Newlove
00:14:52
Reads "Burn".
John Newlove
00:15:16
And this one, an old one, again fairly short. It's called "No Song".
John Newlove
00:15:25
Reads "No Song" [from Black Night Window and published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:15:47
I have a poem I wrote for and about a friend, but after the poem was finished as you may see, I showed it to him but I didn't tell him it was about him. He said it was a very good poem and very accurate, and so on. But he didn't know it was about himself. It's called, "What do you want, what do you want?".
John Newlove
00:16:06
Reads "What do you want, what do you want?" [from Black Night Window and later published in The Fat Man; audience laughter and applause throughout].
John Newlove
00:17:01
After he said it was such an accurate poem, I couldn't tell him it was about him. This one's called "Strand by Strand".
John Newlove
00:17:14
Reads "Strand by Strand".
John Newlove
00:17:56
This is the first time I've kept to a list of...because usually I decide that I don't want to read a particular poem and I get all confused, but I'm very pleased with myself when I keep right to the schedule. Everything organized, everything complete. This short poem in five naturally short pieces is called "One Day".
John Newlove
00:18:23
Reads "One Day".
John Newlove
00:18:55
Charles Williams
died in about 1953, he was an Englishman, originally Cockney. He wrote a number of what I think are very good poems, a number of detective novels, some theological deputation, I guess would be the right word. One of his detective novels is about finding the holy grail. It's called War in Heaven and it's out in Faber Paperback, go and buy it, it's really nice. This poem is for and from and about Charles Williams.
John Newlove
00:19:35
Reads “For and From Charles Williams” [from What They Say].
John Newlove
00:20:04
Now my list has gone to pot, because I've got a poem down in a magazine that I didn't bring. So. One day some years ago, I was hitchhiking out to British Columbia
. I got to a place called Golden
, B.C. and I had to go up the Big Bend Highway
, this would be before the Rogers Pass
was open. And I got a ride about thirty miles in on what I didn't know was an illegally-present logging truck, because the Big Bend Highway was not open to traffic for three more days. So I sat three days on the Big Bend Highway. This poem roughly...well, it's called "Solitaire".
John Newlove
00:20:47
Reads "Solitaire" [from Black Night Window and published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:21:22
This short one called "El Paso" because El Paso was the place where it happens. It was ninety degrees outside in El Paso
, and with the air conditioning, which I couldn't turn off, it was about thirty below. And I couldn't sleep, I had to get up in the middle of the night and get dressed and get under the blankets, and I caught terrible cold in that motel.
John Newlove
00:21:41
Reads "El Paso".
John Newlove
00:21:56
Since I've been out of Nova Scotia, I've written a couple of poems about or around Nova Scotia. The main thing I can't seem to get in a poem just yet is the difference between the Pacific Ocean
, in Vancouver, and the Atlantic
. There seems a tremendous difference that I can feel but that I can't seem yet to grasp in the fact. This poem is called "God Bless You".
John Newlove
00:22:24
Reads "God Bless You" [later published in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:22:43
Laughter.
John Newlove
00:22:47
The next piece is on the back of my list. I think this is about the only other ethnic Nova Scotia-type poem that I've got, but I was only there for about six months and I can't quite put out a book yet. This is called "By the Grey Atlantic".
John Newlove
00:23:04
Reads "By the Grey Atlantic" [published later in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:23:31
I think I'll read quickly a number of poems from this book. I'm anxious not to keep you too long, if anybody feels like walking out, I won't really be insulted if you'll [unintelligible]. These are all quite simple so I might as well just give the title in my school-class fashion and then go on to read them. This is called "The Photograph my Mother Keeps". I might see first that Veregin
is a town in Saskatchewan named after a leader of the Doukhobors
, they first came to that area after Peter the Lordly Verigin
[unintelligible] his palace, which is really just a gigantic farmhouse, it's outside the town.
John Newlove
00:24:19
Reads "The Photograph my Mother Keeps".
John Newlove
00:25:04
This one, about a pregnant girl, it's called "On Her Long Bed of Night”.
John Newlove
00:25:09
Reads "On Her Long Bed of Night".
John Newlove
00:26:12
So, this one's about my father. Drowning kittens, in a lot of houses in Saskatchewan you keep a rain barrel on a corner of the house underneath a spout to get the fresh rainwater for washing and so on.
John Newlove
00:26:27
Reads “My Daddy Drowned” [from Elephants, Mothers and Others and later published in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:27:09.11
Laughter and applause.
John Newlove
00:27:18
This one is called "Half in Love".
John Newlove
00:27:22
Reads "Half in Love".
John Newlove
00:28:02
This one is called "Sister Cowen". She used to run a mission in Edmonton
, and she had very good stew. She was a very violent woman. On Christmas Eve she used to give all the bums fifty cents, but she gave a particularly long sermon on Christmas Eve. She was very down on booze.
John Newlove
00:28:25
Reads "Sister Cowen".
John Newlove
00:28:40
Laughter.
John Newlove
00:28:49
This one is set in Vancouver outside Roy Kiyooka's studio.
John Newlove
00:28:58
Reads unnamed poem.
John Newlove
00:29:30
The name of this book is Elephants, Mothers, and Others. I've read poems about others and one about my mother, and this is the elephant’s poem.
John Newlove
00:29:41
Reads “Elephants” from Elephants, Mothers, and Others [and published later in The Fat Man; audience laughter throughout].
John Newlove
00:30:01
I think I've gone on too long, there is a longish poem called "The Fat Man", which I want to read, so I'll skip the rest of the stuff I thought I was going to read and just do this one.
Annotation
00:30:18
Reads "The Fat Man" [published later in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:34:47
Applause.
John Newlove
00:34:48
It's not finished, you see, it's not...[Audience laughter].
John Newlove
00:34:52
Resumes reading "The Fat Man" [published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:36:33
Thank you.
Audience
00:36:35
Applause.
END
00:36:55
Notes:
John Newlove reads from Black Night Window (McClelland & Stewart, 1968), What They Say (Weed/Flower, 1967), Elephants, Mothers and Others (Periwinkle Press, 1963) and poems later published in The Cave (McClelland & Stewart, 1970). Most of these poems have been collected in The Fat Man: Selected Poems 1962-1972 (McClelland & Stewart, 1977).
00:00- Roy Kiyooka introduces John Newlove. [INDEX: friend, fall of 1961, Vancouver, Saskatchewan, early poems, studio, chess, Long Johns, paint, wine, literature, mice, drunken poets, women, Grave Sirs published in this period, Robert Reed, Elephants, Mothers and Others, Tak Tanabe, Robert Columbo discovered John Newlove, Canadian poetry, Poetry ’64, Contact Press, Moving in Alone, critical attention, What They Say (Weed/Flower, 1967), rejected manuscripts submitted to McClelland and Stewart, new book Black Night Window, manuscript, poet in residence at Deep Springs in California, Heraclitus.]
04:51- John Newlove responds to Kiyooka’s introduction, and introduces “The Almost King”. [INDEX: Herodotus, studio, Roy Kiyooka, rent, chess games, poems about dreams, Australian chief; from unknown source.]
05:42- Reads “The Almost King”.
08:32- Introduces “The Candle”. [INDEX: drams, short poems, poetry readings, listening, ashtray, faculty club, George (Bowering), Angela (Bowering); from unknown source.]
09:07- Reads “The Candle”.
09:19- Introduces “The Engine in the Sea”. [INDEX: dream, misprinted in the Malahat Review, favourite poem, supposed to be ‘and the Sea’; first printed in The Cave (McClelland and Stewart, 1970), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
09:32- Reads “The Engine and the Sea”.
11:26- Introduces “Before Sleep”. [INDEX: love poems about sleep, dreams, problems sleeping, nightmares; first printed in The Cave (McClelland and Stewart, 1970), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
11:44- Reads “Before Sleep”.
12:53- Introduces “The Dream Man”. [INDEX: dreams, dream about someone else’s dream, copyright; from unknown source.]
13:09- Reads “The Dream Man”.
14:35- Introduces “Burn”. [INDEX: reading ‘rules’, extra-poetic speech, Ed Sullivan routines; from unknown source.]
14:52- Reads “Burn”.
15:16- Introduces “No Song”. [INDEX: old poem, short poem; published first in Black Night Window (McClelland and Stewart, 1968), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
15:25- Reads “No Song”.
15:47- Introduces “What do you want?” [INDEX: wrote for and about a friend; originally printed in Black Night Window (McClelland and Stewart, 1968), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
16:06- Reads “What do you want?”.
17:01- Introduces “Strand by Strand”. [INDEX: from unknown source.]
17:14- Reads “Strand by Strand”.
17:56- Introduces “One Day”. [INDEX: list of poems to read, poem in five short parts; from unknown source.]
18:23- Reads “One Day”.
18:55- Introduces first line “For and From Charles Williams”. [INDEX: Charles Williams death in 1953, Englishman, Cockney, detective novels, poems, theological disputation, holy grail, War in Heaven Faber Paperback; published in What they Say (Weed/flower Press, 1967).]
19:35- Reads first line “For and From Charles Williams”.
20:04- Introduces “Solitaire”. [INDEX: list, magazine, hitchhiking in British Columbia, Golden, B.C, Big Bend Highway, Rogers Pass, ride, illegally-present logging truck; originally printed in Black Night Window (McClelland and Stewart, 1968), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
20:47- Reads “Solitaire”.
21:22- Introduces “El Paso”. [INDEX: ninety degrees, air conditioning, thirty below, sleep, cold, motel; from unknown source.]
21:41- Reads “El Paso”.
21:56- Introduces “God Bless You”. [INDEX: Nova Scotia, poem, difference between Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Ocean, Vancouver; later printed in The Cave (McClelland and Stewart, 1970), The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
22:24- Reads “God Bless You”.
22:47- Introduces “By the Grey Atlantic”. [INDEX: list, Nova-Scotia-type poem, six months, unfinished book; later printed in The Cave (McClelland and Stewart, 1970), The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
23:04- Reads “By the Grey Atlantic”.
23:31- Introduces “The Photograph my Mother Keeps”. [INDEX: reading poems from book (unknown), title, school-class fashion, Verrigan, Saskatchewan, named after the leader of the Doukhabors, Peter the Lordly Verrigan, farmhouse; from unknown source.]
24:19- Reads “The Photograph my Mother Keeps”.
25:04- Introduces “On Her Long Bed of Night”. [INDEX: pregnant girl; from unknown source.]
25:09- Reads “On Her Long Bed of Night”.
26:12- Introduces “My Daddy Drowned”. [INDEX: father, kittens, houses in Saskatchewan, rain barrel, house, fresh rainwater; published Elephants, Mothers and Others (Periwinkle, 1963), collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
26:27- Reads “My Daddy Drowned”.
27:18- Reads “Half in Love”.
28:02- Introduces “Sister Cowen”. [INDEX: Sister Cowen, mission in Edmonton, stew, violent woman, Christmas eve, homeless men, fifty cents, alcohol, sermon; from unknown source.]
28:27- Reads “Sister Cowen”.
28:49- Introduces first line “The obnoxiously-generated neon suspense...”. [INDEX: Roy Kiyooka’s studio; from unknown source.]
28:58- Reads first line “The obnoxiously-generated neon suspense...”.
29:30- Introduces first line “Elephants ”. [INDEX: from Elephants, Mothers and Others (Periwinkle, 1963) later collected in The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977), mother, others, elephant poem.]
29:41- Reads first line “Elephants”.
30:01- Introduces “The Fat Man”. [INDEX: reading too long, long poem; from The Fat Man (McClelland and Stewart, 1977).]
30:18- Reads “The Fat Man”.
00:36:55.23- END OF RECORDING
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CONTENT
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joe_rosenblatt_i006-11-138.mp3 [File 1 of 2]
Roy Kiyooka
00:00:00
Good evening. Hello, Mr. Bowering
. [Audience laughter]. Well, welcome to the sixth reading of our second series of evenings with Canadian and American poets. Tonight we have Joe Rosenblatt
, Toronto
, and John Newlove
, formerly of Vancouver
, now residing in Nova Scotia
. Joe Rosenblatt will begin the reading, there will be an intermission, and John Newlove will follow. I'm going to quote largely from the copy in Joe Rosenblatt's book, The LSD Leacock, for I hope servient biographical information. It goes like this, he was born in Toronto on December the 26th, nineteen hundred and thirty-three. He says that he has suffocated in Toronto ever since then. He attended the Central Technical School
and dropped out in Grade 10, he has worked as a grave-digger, plumber's helper, civil servant, railway express misanthrope. He has attended the Provincial Institute of Trades where he acquired a diploma as a welder fitter, his favourite writers are Ambrose Biers, William Blake
, Emily Dickinson
, and A.M. Klein
, and his favourite dream, is Cyclops turning up at a [nigh-bank (?)]. [Audience laughter]. His previous book of poems, which was probably printed in nineteen hundred and sixty-three, is called Voyage of the Mood. Joe Rosenblatt.
Audience
00:02:27
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:02:36
Wasn't that [unintelligible]. I'm just going to read, start off with a series of poems I had written about my uncle, who was a fishmonger. He had a habit of phyxiating and murdering fish, and slicing them, and slicing them, and...well, I'll start. This is called "Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:03:11
Reads "Uncle Nathan: Blessed his memory, speaketh in land-locked green" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:06:10
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:06:16
"Ichthycide". Another poem about my uncle. It's funny, really. [Audience laughter].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:06:29
Reads "Ichthycide" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:08:05
Laughter and applause .
Joe Rosenblatt
00:08:13
This is called "A Shell Game". Has to do with my uncle. [Audience laughter]. It's about his funeral. Joke.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:08:27
Reads "A Shell Game [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:09:42
I wrote all kinds of poems. I was in Vancouver and I came across the god-awful logic of the zoo. It kinda scared the hell out of me. It was a bat. I've never seen a bat before. Met people who were bats. But this was the real McCoy, it was a fruit bat and it was hanging upside-down, you know, that's the way they live and they fornicate that way too, apparently, upside-down. So I wrote about bats. I have some more fish poems but I get tired of that after a while, you start hating it. And we'll begin with "Bats". While it's true the bat is a mammal, not a bird, there's all types of kinds of mythology based on prejudice about bats and which I've tried to embody in these poems.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:10:47
Reads "Bats" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:11:32
Outside of the bat poem there came a group of sound poetry. Because I tried to get the feeling of the bat in the air, you know the image of the bat and the way it, and the movements of the bat. And this is called "The Fruit Bat". First encounter with a bat.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:11:56
Reads "The Fruit Bat" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:13:16
This is better. This is “The Bat Cage”.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:13:19
Reads “The Bat Cage” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:14:39
Oh we're like bats to people. We used to have, I used to, when I was a kid I went to school and we had a music teacher who was a bit of a nut. She used to rap kids across the knuckles, you know, just to hear them singing. [Audience laughter]. I may have called her Mrs. Love, I can't recall, the trauma was too great.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:15:02
Reads “The Vampire” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:15:48
Laughter and applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:15:55
"The Zombie". Just whistle when you get tired of these bat poems. Do anything you wanna do. "The Zombie". By the way, bats are supposed to be unkosher according to Leviticus
. It says all fowl that creep going upon all fours shall be an abomination unto you. But in other countries they're great appetizers, the fruit bat especially, and I have an interesting poem, not right now though. "The Zombie".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:16:26
Reads "The Zombie" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:17:59
I'll read one more bat poem, it's the sound thing, an experimental thing which I later developed...too many of these bats here. I wrote a Christmas poem on bats, too. Maybe I should read it. Dedicated to somebody. I'll read the sound poem. It's more important. "The Butterfly Bat". There is a butterfly bat. Hm, found in the Orient, a very beautiful bat, orange apparently, very beautiful though.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:18:43
Reads "The Butterfly Bat" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:02
Reads "Orpheus in Stanley Park" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:50
"Sex and Death". This poem's for a friend of mine.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:20:54
Reads "Sex and Death" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:21:48
I should read the egg poems, because I don't think many of you have heard them, and I'll do that. You'd probably like them better than the bats. More meaningful. This is called "Egg Sonata".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:22:20
Reads "Egg Sonata" [from The LSD Leacock].
Audience
00:23:38
Laughter and applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:23:44
Reads ["Let the egg live" (?)].
Unknown
00:24:56
Silence [cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:24:59
Reads "It's in the egg, in the little round egg" [from The LSD Leacock].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:26:57
One more egg poem. [Audience laughter and applause]. This is a prose poem. It's called "The Easter I got for Passover". [Audience laughter]. It has to do with an argument, whether the body of Christ did not go to heaven, the moderator of the United Church of Canada
said yesterday, Right Reverend Ernest Marshall Howes told a press conference that he does not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus but does believe in a spiritual resurrection. That's from the Globe and Mail
, 23rd of April, '65.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:27:46
Reads "The Easter I got for Passover" [from The LSD Leacock].
Audience
00:30:02
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:30:10
Do you want to read, John? Where is he? [Audience laughter]. Do you want me to come here? Yeah, okay. I'm getting down to my dirty poems, what am I going to do? I wrote a whole bunch of pornographic poetry, right. I'll read that for the end when the time's up. I wrote a poem to Che Guevara
, if I can find the thing now, because I really muddled everything up here, oh here it is. It's called "The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:30:52
Reads "The Beehive: An Elegy to Che Guevara" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:31:42
A poem about a critic, “Fable”.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:31:47
Reads “Fable” [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:32:37
I wrote another one about a critic, a friend of mine. It's called "The Crab Louse". I'll read it. [Audience laughter]. I think some of you may recognize him.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:32:47
Reads "The Crab Louse".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:33:25
Reads "The Fire Bug Poet".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:34:29
"How Mice Make Love," how'd this get in here? "How Mice Make Love".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:34:36
Reads "How Mice Make Love" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:35:29
"The Electric Rose".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:35:34
Reads "The Electric Rose" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Audience
00:37:13
Applause.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:37:17
Should I read on? Well this is a poem called "Itch". It's about that cat who, you know, in the world of the dead. And as usual I mucked up all the mythology, but it was too late to change the poem. So I said, what the hell.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:37:44
Reads "Itch" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:41:51
There's a loathsome typographical error in here. That's what happens.
Joe Rosenblatt
00:41:56
Resumes reading "Itch" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:43:20
[Unintelligible] a more cheerful poem, if I can find one here. How about "Cricket Love"? I'll read one very early poem I wrote, "Better She Dressed in a Black Garment".
Joe Rosenblatt
00:43:39
Reads "Better She Dressed in a Black Garment" [from Winter of the Luna Moth].
Joe Rosenblatt
00:44:21
Thank you.
Audience
00:44:22
Applause.
Roy Kiyooka
00:44:35
There'll be a fifteen minute inter- [cut off abruptly].
END
00:44:37
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Roy Kiyooka
00:00:00
Well, it gives me a very special kind of pleasure to introduce John Newlove. An old and dear friend. We met in the fall of '61 in Vancouver, and both of us had come from Saskatchewan
to Vancouver. I think that some of John's most memorable early poems have to do with the fact of Saskatchewan. It's perhaps not an exaggeration to say that the place does continue to haunt him, and hopefully that the exorcism is not complete and that we may get some more Saskatchewan poems. Subsequently, and this is still in Vancouver, we shared a studio, or rather, he shared my studio [audience laughter], for a period of little over a year. Now during this time, we played marathon games of chess, ate several hundred dozens of chocolate-coated Long Johns, scribbled poems, dribbled paint, drank cheap red wine...and read through at least a dozen five-foot shelves of great and lesser works of literature, not to mention the confusion of mice, drunken poets, women, painters, and assorted kooks who kept visiting us. Now, it was during this period that his first book, called Grave Sirs was printed, and I have in italics here "more or less." If you want to know the history of that book, you can ask John. I think there must be fifty odd copies that are still unbound someplace. This was printed by Robert Reed. It was followed by a second, called Elephants, Mothers, and Others, done by Tak Tanabe, again in Vancouver, and subsequent to that, it was rumored that Robert Columbo had discovered John Newlove for Canadian poetry [audience laughter], when he collected some of his works together in an anthology called Poetry '64. Now. Following this, of course, Contact Press bought out his book, Moving in Alone, which was perhaps the book that brought him his first large-scale critical attention. Meanwhile, of course, I'd come here, and some time afterwards I received a book, a wee book, called...let's see. [Audience laughter]. Can't read my own printing here. What They Say. Yes, What They Say is a wee book of poems, it's made up of the rejects from his manuscript that he submitted to McClelland and Stewart
. McClelland and Stewart is to bring out his next book of poems called Black Night Window, when they get around to doing it. The manuscript has been in their hands for over twenty-four months. There has been much other activity which include three, two years and a third one coming up as poet in residence at Deep Springs
in California
. I want to conclude this little preamble by saying that at the time that John moved out of our studio, I took over this room that he slept in and wrote poetry in. The mattress in this room was about sixteen inches from the floor, and on two sides, on the wall, there was copious scribbling. Most of it were quotations from Heraclitus
that he was reading at that time.
Audience
00:04:43
Applause.
John Newlove
00:04:51
They weren't quotations from whoever, whatever Greek name that was you just made up, [audience laughter], they were from Herodotus
. And, Roy
might have mentioned that, while I suppose technically you could say I was sharing the studio, I was paying half the rent. Almost half the rent. I was paying some rent. [Audience laughter]. And he never mentioned who won most of the chess games. I write a lot of...who's throwing things at me? You didn't win any chess games. [Audience laughter]. And you weren't paying any rent, either. I write a lot of poems about dreams, one night I woke up with a dream about an Australian chief and I managed to write down most of it. It's called "The Almost King".
John Newlove
00:05:42
Reads "The Almost King" [audience laughter throughout].
John Newlove
00:08:32
Well, when you have dreams like that, you don't really have much chance. I've a number of short poems, I'm told it's not good to give them at poetry readings because people don't listen fast enough or something. But. [Laughter]. This...Yes, that ashtray is stolen from the faculty club, George, and your wife stole it. [Audience laughter]. This one is called "The Candle".
John Newlove
00:09:07
Reads "The Candle".
John Newlove
00:09:19
Again a dream. This poem, misprinted in the Malahat Review
, is one that I most like. It's called "The Engine and the Sea".
John Newlove
00:09:32
Reads "The Engine and the Sea" [published later in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:11:26
Love poems about sleep. And about dreams. This one is called "Before Sleep". I used to have a great deal of trouble going to sleep because I was afraid I would have nightmares.
John Newlove
00:11:44
Reads "Before Sleep" [later published in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:12:53
And again another one about dreams, this one called "The Dream Man”. Dreamed I once wrote a dream about somebody else's dream, but that's not fair, dreams are copyright. This was my own. [Audience laughter].
John Newlove
00:13:09
Reads "The Dream Man".
John Newlove
00:14:35
According to the rules, you're supposed to say things in between poems, but I can't really ever think of anything appropriate to say in between them, so. I used to have some nice Ed Sullivan
routines, but I've forgotten them. This poem is called "Burn".
John Newlove
00:14:52
Reads "Burn".
John Newlove
00:15:16
And this one, an old one, again fairly short. It's called "No Song".
John Newlove
00:15:25
Reads "No Song" [from Black Night Window and published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:15:47
I have a poem I wrote for and about a friend, but after the poem was finished as you may see, I showed it to him but I didn't tell him it was about him. He said it was a very good poem and very accurate, and so on. But he didn't know it was about himself. It's called, "What do you want, what do you want?".
John Newlove
00:16:06
Reads "What do you want, what do you want?" [from Black Night Window and later published in The Fat Man; audience laughter and applause throughout].
John Newlove
00:17:01
After he said it was such an accurate poem, I couldn't tell him it was about him. This one's called "Strand by Strand".
John Newlove
00:17:14
Reads "Strand by Strand".
John Newlove
00:17:56
This is the first time I've kept to a list of...because usually I decide that I don't want to read a particular poem and I get all confused, but I'm very pleased with myself when I keep right to the schedule. Everything organized, everything complete. This short poem in five naturally short pieces is called "One Day".
John Newlove
00:18:23
Reads "One Day".
John Newlove
00:18:55
Charles Williams
died in about 1953, he was an Englishman, originally Cockney. He wrote a number of what I think are very good poems, a number of detective novels, some theological deputation, I guess would be the right word. One of his detective novels is about finding the holy grail. It's called War in Heaven and it's out in Faber Paperback, go and buy it, it's really nice. This poem is for and from and about Charles Williams.
John Newlove
00:19:35
Reads “For and From Charles Williams” [from What They Say].
John Newlove
00:20:04
Now my list has gone to pot, because I've got a poem down in a magazine that I didn't bring. So. One day some years ago, I was hitchhiking out to British Columbia
. I got to a place called Golden
, B.C. and I had to go up the Big Bend Highway
, this would be before the Rogers Pass
was open. And I got a ride about thirty miles in on what I didn't know was an illegally-present logging truck, because the Big Bend Highway was not open to traffic for three more days. So I sat three days on the Big Bend Highway. This poem roughly...well, it's called "Solitaire".
John Newlove
00:20:47
Reads "Solitaire" [from Black Night Window and published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:21:22
This short one called "El Paso" because El Paso was the place where it happens. It was ninety degrees outside in El Paso
, and with the air conditioning, which I couldn't turn off, it was about thirty below. And I couldn't sleep, I had to get up in the middle of the night and get dressed and get under the blankets, and I caught terrible cold in that motel.
John Newlove
00:21:41
Reads "El Paso".
John Newlove
00:21:56
Since I've been out of Nova Scotia, I've written a couple of poems about or around Nova Scotia. The main thing I can't seem to get in a poem just yet is the difference between the Pacific Ocean
, in Vancouver, and the Atlantic
. There seems a tremendous difference that I can feel but that I can't seem yet to grasp in the fact. This poem is called "God Bless You".
John Newlove
00:22:24
Reads "God Bless You" [later published in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:22:43
Laughter.
John Newlove
00:22:47
The next piece is on the back of my list. I think this is about the only other ethnic Nova Scotia-type poem that I've got, but I was only there for about six months and I can't quite put out a book yet. This is called "By the Grey Atlantic".
John Newlove
00:23:04
Reads "By the Grey Atlantic" [published later in The Cave and in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:23:31
I think I'll read quickly a number of poems from this book. I'm anxious not to keep you too long, if anybody feels like walking out, I won't really be insulted if you'll [unintelligible]. These are all quite simple so I might as well just give the title in my school-class fashion and then go on to read them. This is called "The Photograph my Mother Keeps". I might see first that Veregin
is a town in Saskatchewan named after a leader of the Doukhobors
, they first came to that area after Peter the Lordly Verigin
[unintelligible] his palace, which is really just a gigantic farmhouse, it's outside the town.
John Newlove
00:24:19
Reads "The Photograph my Mother Keeps".
John Newlove
00:25:04
This one, about a pregnant girl, it's called "On Her Long Bed of Night”.
John Newlove
00:25:09
Reads "On Her Long Bed of Night".
John Newlove
00:26:12
So, this one's about my father. Drowning kittens, in a lot of houses in Saskatchewan you keep a rain barrel on a corner of the house underneath a spout to get the fresh rainwater for washing and so on.
John Newlove
00:26:27
Reads “My Daddy Drowned” [from Elephants, Mothers and Others and later published in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:27:09.11
Laughter and applause.
John Newlove
00:27:18
This one is called "Half in Love".
John Newlove
00:27:22
Reads "Half in Love".
John Newlove
00:28:02
This one is called "Sister Cowen". She used to run a mission in Edmonton
, and she had very good stew. She was a very violent woman. On Christmas Eve she used to give all the bums fifty cents, but she gave a particularly long sermon on Christmas Eve. She was very down on booze.
John Newlove
00:28:25
Reads "Sister Cowen".
John Newlove
00:28:40
Laughter.
John Newlove
00:28:49
This one is set in Vancouver outside Roy Kiyooka's studio.
John Newlove
00:28:58
Reads unnamed poem.
John Newlove
00:29:30
The name of this book is Elephants, Mothers, and Others. I've read poems about others and one about my mother, and this is the elephant’s poem.
John Newlove
00:29:41
Reads “Elephants” from Elephants, Mothers, and Others [and published later in The Fat Man; audience laughter throughout].
John Newlove
00:30:01
I think I've gone on too long, there is a longish poem called "The Fat Man", which I want to read, so I'll skip the rest of the stuff I thought I was going to read and just do this one.
Annotation
00:30:18
Reads "The Fat Man" [published later in The Fat Man].
Audience
00:34:47
Applause.
John Newlove
00:34:48
It's not finished, you see, it's not...[Audience laughter].
John Newlove
00:34:52
Resumes reading "The Fat Man" [published later in The Fat Man].
John Newlove
00:36:33
Thank you.
Audience
00:36:35
Applause.
END
00:36:55
Notes:
Joe Rosenblatt reads from Winter of the Luna Moth (Anansi Press, 1968)] and The LSD Leacock (Coach House Press, 1966) and a few poems from unknown sources. John Newlove reads from Black Night Window (McClelland & Stewart, 1968), What They Say (Weed/Flower, 1967), Elephants, Mothers and Others (Periwinkle Press, 1963) and poems later published in The Cave (McClelland & Stewart, 1970). Most of these poems have been collected in The Fat Man: Selected Poems 1962-1972 (McClelland & Stewart, 1977).
NOTES
Type:
General
Note:
Year-Specific Information:
In 1968, Rosenblatt published his third collection of poetry, The winter of the lunar moth (House of Anansi).
In 1968, Newlove published Black Night Window (McClelland & Stewart) and 3 Poems (Western P). The Fat Man: Selected Poems 1962-1972 (McClelland & Stewart, 1977) collects poems written during this time.
Type:
General
Note:
Local Connections:
Rosenblatt was an influential and up-and-coming Canadian poet in the mid 60’s and while there is no direct connection to Sir George Williams University, he was friends with and known by many in poetry circles.
As illustrated in the introduction to this reading, John Newlove was close friends with Roy Kiyooka (Professor at Sir George Williams and Reading Series Committee member) when they both lived in Vancouver. Newlove was also an important Canadian and Prairie poet.
Type:
Cataloguer
Note:
Original transcript by Rachel Kyne
Original print catalogue, introduction, research, and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones
Additional research and edits by Ali Barillaro
Type:
Preservation
Note:
2 reel-to-reel tapes>2 CDs> 2 digital files
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