CLASSIFICATION
Swallow ID:
5646
Partner Institution:
Simon Fraser University
Source Collection Label:
Reading in BC Collection
Sub Series:
Reading in BC Collection
ITEM DESCRIPTION
Title:
Panel discussion: "Spicer in Context", Jack Spicer conference at New College of California with Larry Fagin, Lori Chamberlain, Ronald Silliman, and Michael Palmer on June 20, 1986 part 2 of 3 #394
Title Source:
cassette and j-card
Language:
English
Production Context:
Documentary recording
Genre:
Speeches: Panels
Identifiers:
[]
Rights
Rights:
Copyright Not Evaluated (CNE)
CREATORS
Name:
Fagin, Larry
Dates:
1937-
Role:
"Speaker",
"Reader"
Name:
Palmer, Michael
Dates:
1942-2013
Role:
"Speaker"
Notes:
Michael Palmer is the program's moderator
Name:
Blaser, Robin
Dates:
1925-2009
Role:
"Speaker"
Notes:
His part of speech is missing on side two
Name:
Chamberlain, Lori
Role:
"Speaker",
"Reader"
Name:
Silliman, Ronald
Dates:
1946-
Role:
"Speaker",
"Reader"
CONTRIBUTORS
MATERIAL DESCRIPTION
Image:
Recording Type:
Analogue
AV Type:
Audio
Material Designation:
Cassette
Physical Composition:
Magnetic Tape
Track Configuration:
2 track
Playback Mode:
Stereo
Sound Quality:
Good
Physical Condition:
Good
Other Physical Description:
Black and white clear jewel case with J card
DIGITAL FILE DESCRIPTION
Channel Field:
Stereo
Sample Rate:
44.1 kHz
Duration:
T00:47:03
Size:
43.5 MB
Bitrate:
32 bit
Encoding:
WAV for master files and .MP3 for online files
Channel Field:
Stereo
Sample Rate:
44.1 kHz
Duration:
T00:47:10
Size:
44.4 MB
Bitrate:
32 bit
Encoding:
WAV for master files and .MP3 for online files
Dates
Date:
1986-06-20
Type:
Production Date
Source:
J-card
LOCATION
Address:
San Francisco, California , United States
Venue:
New College of California
Latitude:
37.8667498
Longitude:
-122.2688401
Notes:
New College Berkley
CONTENT
Contents:
Side Track No. Comments
One 004 Difference between Spicer Circle and Beat Circle
Spicer Circle gay, preferred alcohol to drugs
Interested in western rather than eastern philosophy
023 Dharma Society
050 Career and success – context for poets
080 Spicers poems – no completion – metonymic, engaging human contingency at every moment
137 Vampirish sensibility – creating a community of the dead
163 Spicer’s expression of connection of the living and the dead
183 Humour in Spicer – in order to open you up to something more sinister in its impact than it appears to be
212 Purpose of pun- engage in Hellish meanings
246 Spicer – anarchist – knew all the political distinctions chose not to participate
Equated Ginsberg to Beatles
A “slippage” in the human crisis
262 Joe Miles as a figure in Spicer’s and Duncan’s development
334 Discussion closed
350 Michael Palmer introduces discussion “Spicer’s vocabulary”
“My vocabulary did this to me. Your love will let you go on’
Spicer’s last words to Blaser
Offers some takes on the word vocabulary
435 Larry Fagin – reads poem from Harris Review from mid 70’s about Spicer
487 Talks about possession, territory, sexuality, etc.
520 The need to defeat dualism as the bottom line of the human condition
573 Vocabulary of gossip and baseball/pinball ritual
610 Tape over
Two 000 Larry Fagin reads poems by Janey McKinnis
013 “I saw some Indians”
034 “You know who I am”
037 “The Janey tree”
047 Palmer introduces Lori Chamberlain
052 She says her interest grows from reading Spicer’s correspondence
064 Confusion between public and private address, a resemblance between poems and letters
072 His review of Dickenson’s letters. No distinction between poetry and prose
“experiments in a heightened prose”
080 Spicer’s letters as part of his poetic project
091 What is in the letters – weather, racism, city life, etc.
Remarks on poetic work. Letters as potential public documents. He measures their success by how he can be deeply personal and deeply public at the same time
152 Reads letter published in Caterpillar
“Dear James” (James Alexander)
200 A dead letter – no addressee or address
The letter as a metaphor
215 Serially of correspondence and serial poems
252 Ron Silliman introduced
290 Notes two sources – Clayton [Eshelman]* in Boundary 2 on After Lorca (notes sources of Spicer in particular Lorca poems. Good knowledge of Lorca)
301 Walter Benjamin (killed as a result of confrontation with fascists on the Spanish border)
An article on the task of the translator
311 Reads “My vocabulary did this to me”
Talks about Spicer’s Vancouver lecture
“Words are nothing but low ghosts…you are stuck with language”
331 “Words are counters – the structure of language is a counter, an obstruction to what the poem wants to do” – insistence on the instrumental function of language – unlike Creeley and Duncan
372 Reads Spicer’s first published poem in Winter 1946 edition of Occident. “To the Semanticists”
380 Spicer divided his poetry into two periods – the later work beginning with After Lorca, 1957. (conception of serial poem and the book as a unit of writing)
398 Reads from the sixth letter
“Most of my friends like words too well”
“The perfect poem has an infinitely small vocabulary”
444 Talks about “The diamond” as a vortex
475 “These poems are not translations” but Spicer’s poetics are fundamentally of translation
490 Steps of poetic maturity – Vancouver talks
533 Walter Benjamin – Kinship to Spicer’s poetic of dictation
564 Translation – “can carry across” only intention and “translatability” – Benjamin’s words
604 Translation in one tongue becomes diction in another language
612 Tape ends
Notes:
SFU BC Readings formatting
NOTES
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